Episode 6 - Disaster at Poltava

July 21, 2025 By Vernon Williams
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Episode 6 - Disaster at Poltava

In the first two episodes, you met 452nd Bomb Group who served at Deopham Green and a number of British family members who lived in villages around the 452nd airfield. In this third episode , continue to follow me as I discover what is left at the airfields along the Air War Trail and the archival work that I did on maps and construction blueprints during those years. I discovered a treasure trove of original airfield drawings in England and using modern digital tools, I have developed new print quality versions of many of the airfield maps that I have used in the documentary films that I have produced and in the first books that I am writing on the Air War Trail.

Included in Episode 3 are two interviews with Ethel Collins (one recorded in 2003 and one in 2005) who lived on her family’s farm in Great Ellingham and also an interview with waist gunner William Roche who was shot down twice. Their stories contain the remarkable experiences that played out from Deopham Green during the war.

Also included in Episode 3 is Jimmy Steward’s recruiting film for the Army Air Force, Winning Your Wings. I have remastered and enhanced this film and included it in Episode 3 to see the efforts of Steward on behalf the Army Air Force, long before he goes to war as a squadron commander with a B-24 Liberator bomb group. This is your first glimpse that you will see of Jimmy Steward. Later in a future episode, you will be introduced to my film, Liberators Over East Anglia, where Steward’s wartime experience are included.

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Dry Gulcher Down follows the story of ten men who grew up in Depression America and found themselves aboard the ill-fated B-17, bound for the Luftwaffe research facilities at Peenemunde. They never made it. The documentary traces the life stories of the crew of aircraft number 42-97594 of the 381st Bomber Group (H) flying out of Ridgewell, England.

On August 4, 1944 the aircraft caught fire after takeoff and plunged to a fiery end not far away. At the controls was famed television director Irving Moore, who remained in the cockpit until it was almost too late. Nine crew bailed out to safety. Only the tail gunner, S/Sgt Harold Norris went down with the plane.

A unique look at the men who spearheaded the air war against Germany and the price they had to pay. At the heart of this documentary are the events over Shalford Village that day, and the people who watched the tragedy unfold–a British mother and son who saw the Dry Gulcher approch their home on fire, Captain Frederick Hawkins who was aboard the aircraft, and 1st Lieutenant James Grey who watched the fire break out on the Dry Gulcher, from his vantage point in another B-17 above the crippled flying fortress. For the first time, we know what happened to the Dry Gulcher, and the events that led up to that fateful day.

Some of the themes in the film include:

  • Individual air crew training and how an air crew is organized and assembled during the early years as they prepare for combat in Europe

  • Ten men, from different parts of the nation arrive in England and begin life during combat

  • Who were these men of the Cupernaull crew, where did they come from, and how did they settle into life at Ridgewell?

  • Memories of the crew on the day the Dry Gulcher went down over Shalford Village

    British families remember the day that the B-17 came over Shalford Village on fire

  • An extraordinary human story of the Dry Gulcher, the men who flew her, and the drama that played out over a pleasant English village

  • “So, as I put my chest chute on and turned around and looked, I saw that the cables were sagging over the door there, about six inches or more, I lifted them out of the way and I left the ship.”

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Ethel Lincoln Collins was born on June 14, 1927 at her home on Bush Green Farm in Great Ellingham. Ethel was twelve years old when the British declared war on German and sixteen years old when the Americans came to Deopham Green airfield. Part of the airfield was built on a part of her father’s land that was requisitioned by the Air Ministry so some of the wartime operations were close to her home and became a part of her growing up years. I interviewed Ethel twice, one on my first interview trip to the Deopham Green area in 2003 and again, in 2005.

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At the first opportunity after graduation, William Roche enlisted in the Army Air Corps and became a B-17 Flying Fortress waist gunner. During WWII he was stationed at Deopham Green, England flying missions with the 452nd Bomb Group, 8th Air Force. On two occasions he was shot down, once crash landing in France, and then later behind Russian lines in Poland where he was interred by the Russians and eventually repatriated to his unit three months later. His interview covers his training and combat operations, going into detail about the two missions where he was shot down. After the war, he attended college and spent thirty-three years in the Air Force as a Russian linguist and intelligence officer. In 1998, Bill returned to Assigny, France, the site of his first crash landing, where the grateful townspeople surprised him with a formal welcome, displaying pieces of his B-17. I recorded this video interview at the 452nd Reunion in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma on October 4, 2003.

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Warner Brothers Studios produced Winning Your Wings, starring Jimmy Stewart, a promotional film aimed at recruiting young men for the Army Air Force. The 18-minute film included vignettes directed at high school and college students and men in a variety of jobs and civilian careers. The film was shown in movie theaters “nationwide beginning in late May 1942 and was very successful, resulting in 150,000 new recruits” for the Army Air Force.

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